THE HACKLEY REPORT
By Eric Donald Hackley
KEKIONGA Black Warriors Series
Part two of two
(click here for part one)
Editor’s note: The following is part two of a two-part interview conducted by Eric Hackley with three “Kekionga Black Warriors”—Cedric Tinker, King Mufasa and Prophet Heru regarding enslavement mentality and related issues.
Eric Hackley: How do we grow beyond being intentionally psychologically conditioned?
Prophet Heru: We have to invest more time in the information we’ve been given and not take it for face value. We must be more analytical, critical in our thinking and invest more time in reading and research. We’ve got to get rid of our mental laziness.
King Mufasa: Some people have to come to the realization that they don’t like themselves. You can actually dislike yourself and not even know it. I can remember growing up down south when everyone thought the light skinned guys with the big curly afros would get the girls. I can remember as a kid going to bed praying to wake up light skinned. I would go places with the light skinned kids and stand in the back feeling ashamed, not wanting to be noticed. I probably would have still been that way until I woke up one day and realized I really didn’t like myself. Now I think this bronze is as beautiful as hell. And, there are others who only date white women because they don’t like being black. When that light goes off, they’ll be like me in trying to promote blackness. There’s a man I know who is crazy and went to a psychiatrist and said, “I’m really crazy.” Then he’ll begin to take steps to heal his mind until each and every individual who hates themselves wakes up and realizes I don’t like being black, but I’m stuck here now.
Cedric Tinker: Blacks are taught while they’re young to not like being black and how to worship whites and how they look as exemplified by the white Jesus hanging on many of the walls of black churches and black families homes. White Jesus reinforces black inferiority and white supremacy.
EH: Are today’s blacks aware of how TV commercials influence acceptance and relationships?
King Mufasa: It’s called targeted marketing. Back in the day on the “Joe Cool” Camel commercial targeted teenagers. “If you want to be cool like this camel, smoke Camel cigarettes.” Back In my day, Billy Dee Williams had us all thinking we could ourselves a lot of girls by drinking Colt 45. Now TV has black women swinging their hair all around in slow motion, long, silky and full of body then there is a black woman like Erykah Badu walking around nappy headed who is beautiful in my opinion. Advertisers confuse reality. Now you have black women saying, “I want a real man.” But you go out there and check how many of them wear their real hair and their real eyelashes. How many of them can you recognize in the morning without their make-up on? Realness goes both ways.
EH: What is white supremacy and why are blacks reluctant to openly discuss it?
Prophet Heru: The answer is in the question. It’s because of white supremacy. It encompasses everything from what they project to what we receive. Supremacy means they’re better on every level of life and our opinions don’t matter. So we comply with the attitude that if I say this or try that, it won’t change anything. So I might as well not say or do anything. It’s like the ideology and principality out here is a “self-defeating” thought. So we’re defeated because we fail to try. Supremacy is a condition where Europeans have a superiority mindset, and we have inferiority mindset. It’s a Jedi mind trick when the actuality is the other way around.
EH: Are there differences between Europeans in Georgia and in Fort Wayne?
King Mufasa: They’re basically the same. The differences are in Georgia, you knew who your enemy was. Your neighbor next door would let you know he was a proud member of the Ku Klux Klan. He won’t mess with you, wants nothing to do with you and he doesn’t want you in his yard. That’s the kind of white man I’m used to. The kind of white man that I prefer to deal with and the kind of white man I can respect.
In Fort Wayne, white people will hate you, but still hang-out with you. They’ll date you, have sex with you. That comes from many of my black friends who have white women. It’s all lovey dovey for a while, but the very first time that white woman gets mad at him, he’s going to be called every kind of nigga she can think of and in different languages.
But we don’t want to get white supremacy mixed up with white pride. Sometimes it’s not that the European doesn’t like you, they know too much about you. I don’t find fault in a man wanting to preserve his race, because let’s be for real, he has to preserve his race in order to survive. In order for the white race to survive, they need to make white babies. He is not like us. Whatever we mate with, black, white, Chinese or Mexican, you’re going to get a black baby out of the deal. We’re the only race in the world who can destroy an entire other race with our penis. If every black man got himself four or five white girls and we got them all pregnant, we’ll wipe out the white race.
EH: What do you see as the overriding purpose of the white supremacist mindset?
Cedric Tinker: To keep us down as much as possible and destroy us by sending us off to prison to eventually exterminate us.
King Mufasa: A lot of us are brainwashed, but for white supremacy to be most effective, you’ve got to believe that white man is supreme over you. And if you look around at the most visible white supremacists, they are some of the most uneducated redneck tobacco chewing backwoods Americans that you could ever meet. I grew up in the south and spent most of my life in Georgia. Most of the white supremacists I’ve met couldn’t out think me, and my white supremacists teachers tried to tell me I didn’t have the mental capacity to go to college. They told me to go to the military or trade school. So I became known by them as that uppity nigga in my classes. They couldn’t spank me because I wouldn’t let them do that and my mom wouldn’t let them do that. I wore nice clothes to school. I could read, write, think, and was opinionated.
One time I got fired from a job in Springfield, Ohio. It was a majority of white people and a few black. The blacks were happy to have their jobs and they would go along to get along. The white boys would go around the job cracking nigga jokes and would play grab-ass. One time in a company meeting, being a new guy, I was asked to introduce myself. I said my name was Mufasa and I want you all to know I been observing all week how you like to play grab-ass and boot-to-the-ass and like to tell black jokes. I don’t do any of that. From that day forward, there was a plot to get rid of me. It took them six and a half years to do it,
EH: Why is it important for you to speak out?
Prophet Heru: Every great movement starts with a few people or a great person. Once a person steps up and puts everything on the line showing that this is something worth fighting for, it will show the ability to not fear death because we’re all going to die anyway. So we might die for something instead dying physically and being mentally broken. Earlier, when you asked me how do you mentally process the idea that when you’re enslaved and you want to escape that you would be killed or whipped, I think we have to detach and desensitize ourselves from the reality or our possible death in order to have hope. You’ve got to take it with a grain of salt instead of realizing it weighs a ton.
EH: Is the Voting Rights Act still needed, or do the white supremacists from back in the day see the light of fairness and equal opportunity for all?
King Mufasa: I think that anytime you’re dealing with white people, you need to have it in writing on the books. They will constantly change the rules to the game in midstream. I don’t think anything is sacred in a handshake with a white man. If you come back a year later, he will have convenient amnesia. “I don’t remember telling you that, boy.” With white people, you have to pull out paper with signatures and contracts. If Supreme Court justices say we no longer need the Voting Rights Act, I still think there’s a lot of BS going on at the polls.
Eric Hackley is a veteran independent journalist, television show host and producer focusing largely on history, particularly family history in the black community. His award-winning public access television shows have featured a host of local and national icons. Hackley recently produced two historic calendars. “The purpose of the ‘2012 Fort Wayne Blacks Declare War on Willie Lynch Slave Mentality Calendar’ and ‘2013 Fort Wayne HIS-Story Reform Calendar’ is to stimulate local interest, debate and action to correct the American History lies and distortions used to brainwash blacks and retard the literacy and relevance of Fort Wayne History,” explained Hackley. Both calendar documents are for sale at the Fort Wayne Urban league. Hackley can be contacted at email@example.com.
This article originally appeared in our May 1, 2013 issue.