| May 22, 2013
Kevin Brown and Ed Young photo

Kevin Brown (left) and Ed Young, better known as Elder Yonah, talk with Eric Hackley. (Photo: Eric Hackley)

Interview with Kevin Brown & Ed Young (Elder Yonah)


Editor’s note: The following is an interview with two more “Black Kekionga Warriors”—Kevin Brown and Ed Young, better known as Elder Yonah. Brother Brown was on his way to work the day of the interview but took time to offer up a few comments.

Watch the three-part video interview here.

Kevin Brown: My family moved here in 1956. I’ve been around. I’ve seen a lot of things and a lot of changes. In most cases, people think change is good. Change is inevitable. Everything changes. We have to change our mindset for what it is that we want to accomplish as a community.

Eric Hackley: Why do some feel we need one leader? Why isn’t more emphasis placed on each individual doing their part instead of sitting back like spectators at a football game?

Brown: No one wants to be the “Lewis & Clark” explorers. And it’s because of the barrage of negative attention that would come to them. The white media in this community looks for something negative to dig up on someone who is trying to do something positive to bring about positive change in this community. Just remember, when I was on the school board, they went back and dug up that I threw a chicken bone at my ex-wife. So it is because of the environment we live in.

EH: Therefore, people have been psychologically conditioned to do nothing and to maintain the status quo out of fear of repercussions.

Brown: That’s correct.

EH: So Kevin, I know you have to leave now, and I think we’ve learned not to eat chicken around you.

Brown:A Be kind Eric. A friend came up to me at work and reminded me of this incident, keeping in mind it happened 15 years ago.  It was two white officers who arrested me and on the report one wrote, assault with a “chicken bone.”  My friend at work came up to me and said, “You won’t believe this. I was sitting at home watching TV and there was a guy down in Florida who got arrested for throwing a doughnut at his wife and I thought of you.”

Ed Young a.k.a Elder Yonah: That’s the way the media and justice system is.

Brown: If they can’t get you, they’ll change the laws so they can get you.

Yonah: And, that’s so unfortunate because they are using everything right now like all these killings, the shootings, the bombings to create fear within people. And they always want to find someone who they can pin this stuff on. When you start looking at all the things that are going on in America, they’re saying that the guy in Boston who was walking away on the video looks too much like a typical plant.

When you watch some of these programs on TV like 24 and stuff like that, the series deals with governments fighting within themselves—one end of government fighting the other end of government. The whole concept is about false flags, about the 24 TV show president “setting-up this,” so he can cause that to happen. So that he can do this later on down the road to bring “that” about. I believe, and this is my opinion, that the Boston bombing incident was not set up to hurt anyone, but you had to have that collateral damage in order to make everything look authentic. That’s the reason why the other two bombs did not go off. They did not want them to go off. The officials wanted those bombs to be found so that they can act like they’re tracing it back to a particular individual who they’ve already setup to take the fall. But, there’s something else behind that. That’s the reason why they couldn’t find who they were looking for. How can you find yourself? They have proven time and time again that this is how they work.

When you take a look at some of the things that’s going on here in Fort Wayne like the killings, who’s actually pushing these kids and killings around here? Where are they getting their guns from? Who is providing all this?

EH: You don’t think they’re just behaving as misdirected young people?

Yonah: I sure don’t for the simple reason that, where do you think they getting the guns from? If there is that much gang violence going on in the city, why hasn’t anyone done anything about it yet? Why is it always a bunch of black males who do the small shootings and always the Gentile males who are doing the mass killings?

EH: What did you mean when you said the other day that I need to get 50 people together?

Yonah: It may take some volunteers, money and things of that nature. Have you ever thought about having a barbecue to kick-off a Think-Tank. To bring together men who are legitimately concerned about the community and who want to legitimately sit-down, talk and discuss it. Not a gay thing, but without females and other distractions.

EH: But, females are the most verbal and enlightened blacks in this community.

Yonah: Then you have a Think-Tank Forum for them.

EH: Over the years I have noticed that a large faction of blacks are to a degree, too concerned about how this may damage their relationship with white people.

Yonah: That problem can be easily overcome. You ask the person If they’re concerned what someone may be thinking about their being involved in a Black Think-Tank, then keep your butt at home.

EH: But, I’ve noticed that if you try to persuade or lure a person out of their comfort zone, they will instinctively invent excuses for inaction.

Yonah: You tell them that this is about our community and what we need to do to take it back from all the irrationalities that are going on within the Fort Wayne South East Central communities. We need to put things back on a level where, when we want to walk down the street with our wives holding her hand and talking with her at 12 midnight, we don’t have a problem of somebody doing a drive-by. We may just want to sit out on the front porch and look at the stars or talk with the neighbors. We shouldn’t have to fear anyone shooting at them or anything like that. When you talk to our people, you have to do it the right way and be blunt. “Is he trying to call me chicken?” It’s a conditioned mindset you have to deal with. When they have that kind of mindset, they’ll show up. “What do you mean if I’m a chicken that I should stay at home?” “What do you mean if I care what white people say about my being here, that I should stay home?” “What is that all about?” Well if you’re worried about “them,” stay at home because we’re not worried. We’re going to say what we’re going to say, and we’re going to say it how we need to say it, point blank to the point!

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Eric Hackley is a veteran independent journalist, television show host and producer focusing largely on history, particularly family history in the black community. His award-winning public access television shows have featured a host of local and national icons. Hackley can be contacted at

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